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		<title>By: Nathan Sanders</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-3444</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Jensen,

"Hateful explicatives (sic)" are not something from which one should infer a "lack of inteligence (sic)".  The fact is that they result more often from a simple lack of imagination and not from a person being less than you.  You may also think that it is the only way these people know how to explain their bitter frustration over the situation but that certainly is also wrong. 

However a true lack of intelligence can be more rightfully ascribed to the person I assume to be Ayers’ fellow professor at the University of Illinois – Chicago.  When you cannot spell correctly or properly construct sentences you have no standing for dismissing those who dissent from your opinions as being stupid. Your fundamental overarching elitism is showing through your thin veneer of erudition.

With respect to your last sentence I think it would have been far more accurate and honest of you to actually capitalize the ‘d’ in your “anti-democratic” to properly reflect the manner in which truly mean the word.

Returning to your basic thesis, it uses an infantile approach to debate the merit of a given position. You chose to sink to a process of simplistic unhelpful counter-citation. Can any given action or thought be made good if a subjectively worse action or thought is found with which to compare it? 

Using your own theory of validation, since I too was present during the 1960’s  and 1970’s and I also spell better than you do I must be better able to assess the discussion at hand.  Given those facts, my position is that you’re wrong, I’m right and Ayers is a narcissistic, self-important equivocating fool.

Amazingly this is one time it appears that using your approach leads to a valid conclusion.  When using this process to evaluate you the jury is still out…I think…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Jensen,</p>
<p>&#8220;Hateful explicatives (sic)&#8221; are not something from which one should infer a &#8220;lack of inteligence (sic)&#8221;.  The fact is that they result more often from a simple lack of imagination and not from a person being less than you.  You may also think that it is the only way these people know how to explain their bitter frustration over the situation but that certainly is also wrong. </p>
<p>However a true lack of intelligence can be more rightfully ascribed to the person I assume to be Ayers’ fellow professor at the University of Illinois – Chicago.  When you cannot spell correctly or properly construct sentences you have no standing for dismissing those who dissent from your opinions as being stupid. Your fundamental overarching elitism is showing through your thin veneer of erudition.</p>
<p>With respect to your last sentence I think it would have been far more accurate and honest of you to actually capitalize the ‘d’ in your “anti-democratic” to properly reflect the manner in which truly mean the word.</p>
<p>Returning to your basic thesis, it uses an infantile approach to debate the merit of a given position. You chose to sink to a process of simplistic unhelpful counter-citation. Can any given action or thought be made good if a subjectively worse action or thought is found with which to compare it? </p>
<p>Using your own theory of validation, since I too was present during the 1960’s  and 1970’s and I also spell better than you do I must be better able to assess the discussion at hand.  Given those facts, my position is that you’re wrong, I’m right and Ayers is a narcissistic, self-important equivocating fool.</p>
<p>Amazingly this is one time it appears that using your approach leads to a valid conclusion.  When using this process to evaluate you the jury is still out…I think…</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jensen</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-3246</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The record has to be set straight. Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn are being depicted as "bomb throwing terrorists" in the media of late. The pundits on the Fox network have claimed that Bill's unwillingness to appologize is an indication of his desire to throw more bombs. One, and I won't even bother to state his name, claims that the Weatherunderground intended to kill innocent people by the droves. Really? Well my question is, why didn't they if that was their intention? Timothy McVie and many other true terrorists have proven just how easy that is to do (Mr. McVie was a Right Wing terrorist by the way. That must be hard to swallow for some). It is however difficult to conduct PROPERTY damage as the Weathermen did without hurting any innocents. Let's be realistic here, if they wanted to kill they could have easily done so. They chose not too. To me that indicates SYMBOLIC violence. What should they pay a price for? Vandalism? Certainly not true terrorism. Certainly people in my age group at the time were not terrorized by the Weathermen.

My point is lets don't rewrite history. If you didn't live during those times as I did, don't believe everything the network news is spewing lately. I'm not saying that I agree with the actions of the Weathermen, but clearly they were not terrorists or murderers. You may not agree with their politics, but google the name Fred Hampton and then research the outcome in the courts years later when justice was sought. There were other motivations for the actions of the Weathermen other than just the war. Before you spout hate, please know what you are talking about. Because, believe it or not, our government isn't always right, nor does it always conduct itself lawfully. And in either case, it is the responsiblity of the citizens to chasten it and lead it back to the tack of justice and freedom.

The hateful explicatives show lack of inteligence. That can be forgiven. Ignorance is another matter.

I await your hateful, uninformed, and intolerant (as in anti-democratic) responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The record has to be set straight. Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn are being depicted as &#8220;bomb throwing terrorists&#8221; in the media of late. The pundits on the Fox network have claimed that Bill&#8217;s unwillingness to appologize is an indication of his desire to throw more bombs. One, and I won&#8217;t even bother to state his name, claims that the Weatherunderground intended to kill innocent people by the droves. Really? Well my question is, why didn&#8217;t they if that was their intention? Timothy McVie and many other true terrorists have proven just how easy that is to do (Mr. McVie was a Right Wing terrorist by the way. That must be hard to swallow for some). It is however difficult to conduct PROPERTY damage as the Weathermen did without hurting any innocents. Let&#8217;s be realistic here, if they wanted to kill they could have easily done so. They chose not too. To me that indicates SYMBOLIC violence. What should they pay a price for? Vandalism? Certainly not true terrorism. Certainly people in my age group at the time were not terrorized by the Weathermen.</p>
<p>My point is lets don&#8217;t rewrite history. If you didn&#8217;t live during those times as I did, don&#8217;t believe everything the network news is spewing lately. I&#8217;m not saying that I agree with the actions of the Weathermen, but clearly they were not terrorists or murderers. You may not agree with their politics, but google the name Fred Hampton and then research the outcome in the courts years later when justice was sought. There were other motivations for the actions of the Weathermen other than just the war. Before you spout hate, please know what you are talking about. Because, believe it or not, our government isn&#8217;t always right, nor does it always conduct itself lawfully. And in either case, it is the responsiblity of the citizens to chasten it and lead it back to the tack of justice and freedom.</p>
<p>The hateful explicatives show lack of inteligence. That can be forgiven. Ignorance is another matter.</p>
<p>I await your hateful, uninformed, and intolerant (as in anti-democratic) responses.</p>
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		<title>By: derek peake sr.</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-3155</link>
		<dc:creator>derek peake sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, God does give us the right and responsibility to judge right from wrong...It is final judgement that He reserves for Himself...Of course, most liberals don't believe in right or wrong, just a self-adjusting gray zone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, God does give us the right and responsibility to judge right from wrong&#8230;It is final judgement that He reserves for Himself&#8230;Of course, most liberals don&#8217;t believe in right or wrong, just a self-adjusting gray zone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom J</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-3131</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's keep this in perspective.
There are 300 million people in the United States.
There are 22 comments on this entry.
There are 10 'anti-Bill' people making comments:
Bill Miller
John Janski
saintknowitall
Robert Wieck
Cesar Quintanilla
Claire W Solt, PhD
'Diana Oughton'
Alan
Paul Hammer
derek peake sr.

"Judge not lest ye be judged."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s keep this in perspective.<br />
There are 300 million people in the United States.<br />
There are 22 comments on this entry.<br />
There are 10 &#8216;anti-Bill&#8217; people making comments:<br />
Bill Miller<br />
John Janski<br />
saintknowitall<br />
Robert Wieck<br />
Cesar Quintanilla<br />
Claire W Solt, PhD<br />
&#8216;Diana Oughton&#8217;<br />
Alan<br />
Paul Hammer<br />
derek peake sr.</p>
<p>&#8220;Judge not lest ye be judged.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: derek peake sr.</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>derek peake sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are not qualified to teach pre-schoolers, much less college students...you lack the basic understanding to realize that you and your ilk are part of the problem in our great country, not the solution...May God grant you wisdom in your old age to sincerely repent for the sins of your youth...Of course, all of us need God's grace in this respect, so you are not alone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not qualified to teach pre-schoolers, much less college students&#8230;you lack the basic understanding to realize that you and your ilk are part of the problem in our great country, not the solution&#8230;May God grant you wisdom in your old age to sincerely repent for the sins of your youth&#8230;Of course, all of us need God&#8217;s grace in this respect, so you are not alone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. There sure are a lot of creepy people out there. That was an interesting piece, Bill Ayers. If you'll forgive me, I always thought you guys were quixotically idiotic and misdirected, but the idea that you have anything to apologize for, when we have a real mad-bomber from that time running for president is just laughable. Yeah. Your biggest mistake was not seeing the soldiers, the GIs as your real potential allies. In fact, though campus activists like myself (and you guys) played some  role in ending the Vietnam War, the ones who at least ended U.S. operations on the ground were the GIs themselves, who resisted in the field, refused orders, and even fragged their COs. They were the ones that forced the ground troop withdrawal and sent Tricky Dick and Henry to Leonid, begging for Soviet intervention. So... don't apologize, but let's do what we can to help the new generation of activists avoid our old mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. There sure are a lot of creepy people out there. That was an interesting piece, Bill Ayers. If you&#8217;ll forgive me, I always thought you guys were quixotically idiotic and misdirected, but the idea that you have anything to apologize for, when we have a real mad-bomber from that time running for president is just laughable. Yeah. Your biggest mistake was not seeing the soldiers, the GIs as your real potential allies. In fact, though campus activists like myself (and you guys) played some  role in ending the Vietnam War, the ones who at least ended U.S. operations on the ground were the GIs themselves, who resisted in the field, refused orders, and even fragged their COs. They were the ones that forced the ground troop withdrawal and sent Tricky Dick and Henry to Leonid, begging for Soviet intervention. So&#8230; don&#8217;t apologize, but let&#8217;s do what we can to help the new generation of activists avoid our old mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: blahblahblah</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator>blahblahblah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saintknowitall - your spelling is truly "frieghtening." (it's "frightening," in case you might want to use that word again when making a nonsensical comment to someone else on the internet.)

what am i being selective about? the weather underground? the 1960s and 1970s? iraq?
let me guess: leftists are selective about their recall of history and those on the right always, always speak the god's honest truth and would NEVER make anything up or distort the "facts" to serve their own agendas? is that what it is? 

if you'd like, i can cite sources next time, although i'm sure you'll STILL try to convince me that i'm being selective. what a brilliant defense for the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saintknowitall - your spelling is truly &#8220;frieghtening.&#8221; (it&#8217;s &#8220;frightening,&#8221; in case you might want to use that word again when making a nonsensical comment to someone else on the internet.)</p>
<p>what am i being selective about? the weather underground? the 1960s and 1970s? iraq?<br />
let me guess: leftists are selective about their recall of history and those on the right always, always speak the god&#8217;s honest truth and would NEVER make anything up or distort the &#8220;facts&#8221; to serve their own agendas? is that what it is? </p>
<p>if you&#8217;d like, i can cite sources next time, although i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll STILL try to convince me that i&#8217;m being selective. what a brilliant defense for the right.</p>
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		<title>By: saintknowitall</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-2330</link>
		<dc:creator>saintknowitall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear blahblahblah,
Your selective recall of history is freightening.  You forgot to blame HIV on the whiteman, by the way.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear blahblahblah,<br />
Your selective recall of history is freightening.  You forgot to blame HIV on the whiteman, by the way.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: blahblahblah</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>blahblahblah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those of you who feel the need to troll bill's blog and attack him as though he's murdered scores of people need to think long and hard about what terrorism really means. bill lost three of his own and didn't murder anyone. the vitriol is ridiculous.

hmm, i'm thinking:
- US and UN sanctions killed THOUSANDS of iraqis, if not over a million.
- the war in iraq has created thousands and thousands of orphans and widows.
- the US is the only country to have ever dropped The Bomb.

i think that's pretty terror-inducing. 

what's more terrifying? 

institutionalized, systematic violence that cannot seem to be stopped, even when a war is unpopular and the economy is tanking and people (including americans) are dying and the war has no end in sight and as always, brown people are brutalized and killed? the continued repression of dissent in this country? the ability of the US gov't to spy on its own people WITHOUT a warrant and their total disregard of both domestic and international law? (i could go on and on.) 

OR

bill standing up for what he believes in: social justice and an end to american imperialism?

i'd have to go with the first. 
nothing has changed since the 1960s and 1970s. meet the new boss, same as the old boss. 

and bill, thanks for the original post. i think it's right on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those of you who feel the need to troll bill&#8217;s blog and attack him as though he&#8217;s murdered scores of people need to think long and hard about what terrorism really means. bill lost three of his own and didn&#8217;t murder anyone. the vitriol is ridiculous.</p>
<p>hmm, i&#8217;m thinking:<br />
- US and UN sanctions killed THOUSANDS of iraqis, if not over a million.<br />
- the war in iraq has created thousands and thousands of orphans and widows.<br />
- the US is the only country to have ever dropped The Bomb.</p>
<p>i think that&#8217;s pretty terror-inducing. </p>
<p>what&#8217;s more terrifying? </p>
<p>institutionalized, systematic violence that cannot seem to be stopped, even when a war is unpopular and the economy is tanking and people (including americans) are dying and the war has no end in sight and as always, brown people are brutalized and killed? the continued repression of dissent in this country? the ability of the US gov&#8217;t to spy on its own people WITHOUT a warrant and their total disregard of both domestic and international law? (i could go on and on.) </p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>bill standing up for what he believes in: social justice and an end to american imperialism?</p>
<p>i&#8217;d have to go with the first.<br />
nothing has changed since the 1960s and 1970s. meet the new boss, same as the old boss. </p>
<p>and bill, thanks for the original post. i think it&#8217;s right on.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hammer</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayers is a sleazy, slimy leftist who suffers from self-importance!  Any time the left has a victory we can be sure that deceit, duplicity, fraud, intimidation, a smear, or violence was involved.  The fact that people fled Vietnam and Pol Pot depopulated Cambodia after the Communist victory shows the evil nature of the Communists and their stupid supporters in the West.   Until I see people freely moving into these Socialist utopias, I consider all leftists brain-dead. 
Marxism in all forms is a mental disorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayers is a sleazy, slimy leftist who suffers from self-importance!  Any time the left has a victory we can be sure that deceit, duplicity, fraud, intimidation, a smear, or violence was involved.  The fact that people fled Vietnam and Pol Pot depopulated Cambodia after the Communist victory shows the evil nature of the Communists and their stupid supporters in the West.   Until I see people freely moving into these Socialist utopias, I consider all leftists brain-dead.<br />
Marxism in all forms is a mental disorder.</p>
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