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		<title>By: Penelope Rachel Cade</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penelope Rachel Cade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr. Ayers,

I was born in the same year as your wife , and graduated from in college in the 60s.  At the time, my college boyfriend wore a black armband to protest the war; even that small show of protest embarrassed me when we were out in public.

Today, I am married to Tom, a sedentary man who sits in a lounge chair from which  he  holds forth, safely grumbling about the war in Iraq and the current government&#039;s outrageous and illegal machinations.  If Americans in greater numbers had actually gotten up off their Barcaloungers, turned off their re-runs and protested this war, things might have turned out very differently.  Even unresponsive governments notice when large numbers turn to critical mass.

This government  has sanctioned unbelieveably-undermcratic activities including wiretapping of its own citizens, torture of prisoners, and the criminally-unbalanced favoring of billionaires to the near destruction of  our middle class. We are scorned by much of the rest of the world, countries who once looked to us in admiration. Clearly, not enough American voices have risen in protest. We never will know the true number of dead who lost their lives due to this government&#039;s unjust and failed policies in Iraq.  I well remember and understand the frustrations that led to your radical actions.  On some level, I don&#039;t believe you need to apologize for them.  To be honest, I much prefer the nonviolent tactics of Gandhi, as did many others at the time (including the martyred Dr. King), but they proved largely ineffectual.  In the 1960s, peaceful resistance was not for the young, passionate, and impatient.  

When we finally manage to leave Iraq, schools will be rebuilt by their own citizens, a government that specifically suits them will be instituted, and their daily utility services will be restored more quickly than had we stayed.  We will have the luxury of staying out of other countries&#039; civil wars only when we reduce our dependence on oil from foreign, oil-rich regions.  We must be less wasteful and more ingenius about devising truly safe alternatives to oil. Automobiles and furnaces must be invented and in wide use  that don&#039;t rely on gasoline and oil consumption.  If all this happens, then rebels--like you and your wife once were--will not  be needed. Suprisingly (to some), we will be much safer from politically-motivated terrorism than we are, now. 

The self-righteous people who wrote those  scathing comments above will never realize why your seemingly-excessive tactics  seemed necessary back then.  Thank you for writing about your life.

Penny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Ayers,</p>
<p>I was born in the same year as your wife , and graduated from in college in the 60s.  At the time, my college boyfriend wore a black armband to protest the war; even that small show of protest embarrassed me when we were out in public.</p>
<p>Today, I am married to Tom, a sedentary man who sits in a lounge chair from which  he  holds forth, safely grumbling about the war in Iraq and the current government&#8217;s outrageous and illegal machinations.  If Americans in greater numbers had actually gotten up off their Barcaloungers, turned off their re-runs and protested this war, things might have turned out very differently.  Even unresponsive governments notice when large numbers turn to critical mass.</p>
<p>This government  has sanctioned unbelieveably-undermcratic activities including wiretapping of its own citizens, torture of prisoners, and the criminally-unbalanced favoring of billionaires to the near destruction of  our middle class. We are scorned by much of the rest of the world, countries who once looked to us in admiration. Clearly, not enough American voices have risen in protest. We never will know the true number of dead who lost their lives due to this government&#8217;s unjust and failed policies in Iraq.  I well remember and understand the frustrations that led to your radical actions.  On some level, I don&#8217;t believe you need to apologize for them.  To be honest, I much prefer the nonviolent tactics of Gandhi, as did many others at the time (including the martyred Dr. King), but they proved largely ineffectual.  In the 1960s, peaceful resistance was not for the young, passionate, and impatient.  </p>
<p>When we finally manage to leave Iraq, schools will be rebuilt by their own citizens, a government that specifically suits them will be instituted, and their daily utility services will be restored more quickly than had we stayed.  We will have the luxury of staying out of other countries&#8217; civil wars only when we reduce our dependence on oil from foreign, oil-rich regions.  We must be less wasteful and more ingenius about devising truly safe alternatives to oil. Automobiles and furnaces must be invented and in wide use  that don&#8217;t rely on gasoline and oil consumption.  If all this happens, then rebels&#8211;like you and your wife once were&#8211;will not  be needed. Suprisingly (to some), we will be much safer from politically-motivated terrorism than we are, now. </p>
<p>The self-righteous people who wrote those  scathing comments above will never realize why your seemingly-excessive tactics  seemed necessary back then.  Thank you for writing about your life.</p>
<p>Penny</p>
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		<title>By: Parveneh Sarshar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parveneh Sarshar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a evil human being you are.  Do us a favor and go to Iran where I come from and see how long you last there you faggot!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a evil human being you are.  Do us a favor and go to Iran where I come from and see how long you last there you faggot!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fern Weise</title>
		<link>http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/im-sorry-i-think/comment-page-4/#comment-3910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fern Weise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for writing this thoughtful and nuanced piece. I was fascinated by this &quot;say your sorry&quot; fixation and how you deconstruct it. As for the hostile responses, they make me think of something Mark Rudd said in the &quot;Weather Underground&quot; documentary. &quot;Americans are taught from a very early age that all violence (unless it is violence from the state) is criminal or mentally ill. That is how our violence was viewed. &quot; ( I am paraphrasing). I think the responses reflect this conditioning. 

What do you do when you can&#039;t stand to see the death and destruction that your state is perpetrating? Even if the Weathermen were somewhat naive and overzealous, you were motivated to do something about the injustices being committed by the state. If nothing else, it raised peoples&#039; awareness about the issues. And you always made an effort not to hurt people, focusing on property damage. 

Inevitably the mainstream media would like to paint you and your former group members as the embodiment of evil. It is easier to see the world in black and white than to look for complexity and nuance. Best wishes to you and thank you for your honesty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this thoughtful and nuanced piece. I was fascinated by this &#8220;say your sorry&#8221; fixation and how you deconstruct it. As for the hostile responses, they make me think of something Mark Rudd said in the &#8220;Weather Underground&#8221; documentary. &#8220;Americans are taught from a very early age that all violence (unless it is violence from the state) is criminal or mentally ill. That is how our violence was viewed. &#8221; ( I am paraphrasing). I think the responses reflect this conditioning. </p>
<p>What do you do when you can&#8217;t stand to see the death and destruction that your state is perpetrating? Even if the Weathermen were somewhat naive and overzealous, you were motivated to do something about the injustices being committed by the state. If nothing else, it raised peoples&#8217; awareness about the issues. And you always made an effort not to hurt people, focusing on property damage. </p>
<p>Inevitably the mainstream media would like to paint you and your former group members as the embodiment of evil. It is easier to see the world in black and white than to look for complexity and nuance. Best wishes to you and thank you for your honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fenger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Fenger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose I shouldn&#039;t have been surprised by the negative comments (both their number and their vehemence), but I was. Your writing seemed thoughtful, heartfelt and genuine to me. I guess it depends on one&#039;s attitude towards the Vietnam war; I&#039;m 10 years younger than you, but I shared your horror then and your feelings towards it now. Sure, we acted with some naiveté, but we faced the power of the state, which was violent as well. Not like we&#039;ve got much in the way of apology there . . .
Anyway, hang in there. Your current work is incredibly important, and I wish you well in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I shouldn&#8217;t have been surprised by the negative comments (both their number and their vehemence), but I was. Your writing seemed thoughtful, heartfelt and genuine to me. I guess it depends on one&#8217;s attitude towards the Vietnam war; I&#8217;m 10 years younger than you, but I shared your horror then and your feelings towards it now. Sure, we acted with some naiveté, but we faced the power of the state, which was violent as well. Not like we&#8217;ve got much in the way of apology there . . .<br />
Anyway, hang in there. Your current work is incredibly important, and I wish you well in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew of Owatonna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew of Owatonna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 05:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t  agree with you at all. How twisted your mind has become in that numbing cell of reality.  Colors have all blended in your sight, the edges are gone. This land isnt your land without the honor of our might.  Brain cancer on you sir...in three weeks brain cancer too.  
No more]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t  agree with you at all. How twisted your mind has become in that numbing cell of reality.  Colors have all blended in your sight, the edges are gone. This land isnt your land without the honor of our might.  Brain cancer on you sir&#8230;in three weeks brain cancer too.<br />
No more</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddy Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is from a retired USMC who wears 5 Purple Hearts, Decorated 3 times, 2 tours during Korean War and 4 tours in Nam as a Special Ops (Force Recon).  You, and all your gang needs to have your nuts cut out and stuffed in your mouth.  And that whore bernadine a hot poker up her ass and the other one too.  Now you say you don&#039;t like that talk - but hey - I equate your rambling to be worse than this.  Any college that would hire someone like you really has their head up their ass.  Oh yeah - DO NOT DISMISS me as an uneducated fool.  I have 5 degrees and an IQ of 163.  I hope someday to run into you so I can kick your ass all over the street.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from a retired USMC who wears 5 Purple Hearts, Decorated 3 times, 2 tours during Korean War and 4 tours in Nam as a Special Ops (Force Recon).  You, and all your gang needs to have your nuts cut out and stuffed in your mouth.  And that whore bernadine a hot poker up her ass and the other one too.  Now you say you don&#8217;t like that talk &#8211; but hey &#8211; I equate your rambling to be worse than this.  Any college that would hire someone like you really has their head up their ass.  Oh yeah &#8211; DO NOT DISMISS me as an uneducated fool.  I have 5 degrees and an IQ of 163.  I hope someday to run into you so I can kick your ass all over the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think if you were willing to have US citizens be collateral damage then you owe an apology to each of the citizens your actions damaged. Else why should society welcome you back after you declared war on it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you were willing to have US citizens be collateral damage then you owe an apology to each of the citizens your actions damaged. Else why should society welcome you back after you declared war on it?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Sanders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Jensen,

&quot;Hateful explicatives (sic)&quot; are not something from which one should infer a &quot;lack of inteligence (sic)&quot;.  The fact is that they result more often from a simple lack of imagination and not from a person being less than you.  You may also think that it is the only way these people know how to explain their bitter frustration over the situation but that certainly is also wrong. 

However a true lack of intelligence can be more rightfully ascribed to the person I assume to be Ayers’ fellow professor at the University of Illinois – Chicago.  When you cannot spell correctly or properly construct sentences you have no standing for dismissing those who dissent from your opinions as being stupid. Your fundamental overarching elitism is showing through your thin veneer of erudition.

With respect to your last sentence I think it would have been far more accurate and honest of you to actually capitalize the ‘d’ in your “anti-democratic” to properly reflect the manner in which truly mean the word.

Returning to your basic thesis, it uses an infantile approach to debate the merit of a given position. You chose to sink to a process of simplistic unhelpful counter-citation. Can any given action or thought be made good if a subjectively worse action or thought is found with which to compare it? 

Using your own theory of validation, since I too was present during the 1960’s  and 1970’s and I also spell better than you do I must be better able to assess the discussion at hand.  Given those facts, my position is that you’re wrong, I’m right and Ayers is a narcissistic, self-important equivocating fool.

Amazingly this is one time it appears that using your approach leads to a valid conclusion.  When using this process to evaluate you the jury is still out…I think…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Jensen,</p>
<p>&#8220;Hateful explicatives (sic)&#8221; are not something from which one should infer a &#8220;lack of inteligence (sic)&#8221;.  The fact is that they result more often from a simple lack of imagination and not from a person being less than you.  You may also think that it is the only way these people know how to explain their bitter frustration over the situation but that certainly is also wrong. </p>
<p>However a true lack of intelligence can be more rightfully ascribed to the person I assume to be Ayers’ fellow professor at the University of Illinois – Chicago.  When you cannot spell correctly or properly construct sentences you have no standing for dismissing those who dissent from your opinions as being stupid. Your fundamental overarching elitism is showing through your thin veneer of erudition.</p>
<p>With respect to your last sentence I think it would have been far more accurate and honest of you to actually capitalize the ‘d’ in your “anti-democratic” to properly reflect the manner in which truly mean the word.</p>
<p>Returning to your basic thesis, it uses an infantile approach to debate the merit of a given position. You chose to sink to a process of simplistic unhelpful counter-citation. Can any given action or thought be made good if a subjectively worse action or thought is found with which to compare it? </p>
<p>Using your own theory of validation, since I too was present during the 1960’s  and 1970’s and I also spell better than you do I must be better able to assess the discussion at hand.  Given those facts, my position is that you’re wrong, I’m right and Ayers is a narcissistic, self-important equivocating fool.</p>
<p>Amazingly this is one time it appears that using your approach leads to a valid conclusion.  When using this process to evaluate you the jury is still out…I think…</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Jensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The record has to be set straight. Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn are being depicted as &quot;bomb throwing terrorists&quot; in the media of late. The pundits on the Fox network have claimed that Bill&#039;s unwillingness to appologize is an indication of his desire to throw more bombs. One, and I won&#039;t even bother to state his name, claims that the Weatherunderground intended to kill innocent people by the droves. Really? Well my question is, why didn&#039;t they if that was their intention? Timothy McVie and many other true terrorists have proven just how easy that is to do (Mr. McVie was a Right Wing terrorist by the way. That must be hard to swallow for some). It is however difficult to conduct PROPERTY damage as the Weathermen did without hurting any innocents. Let&#039;s be realistic here, if they wanted to kill they could have easily done so. They chose not too. To me that indicates SYMBOLIC violence. What should they pay a price for? Vandalism? Certainly not true terrorism. Certainly people in my age group at the time were not terrorized by the Weathermen.

My point is lets don&#039;t rewrite history. If you didn&#039;t live during those times as I did, don&#039;t believe everything the network news is spewing lately. I&#039;m not saying that I agree with the actions of the Weathermen, but clearly they were not terrorists or murderers. You may not agree with their politics, but google the name Fred Hampton and then research the outcome in the courts years later when justice was sought. There were other motivations for the actions of the Weathermen other than just the war. Before you spout hate, please know what you are talking about. Because, believe it or not, our government isn&#039;t always right, nor does it always conduct itself lawfully. And in either case, it is the responsiblity of the citizens to chasten it and lead it back to the tack of justice and freedom.

The hateful explicatives show lack of inteligence. That can be forgiven. Ignorance is another matter.

I await your hateful, uninformed, and intolerant (as in anti-democratic) responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The record has to be set straight. Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn are being depicted as &#8220;bomb throwing terrorists&#8221; in the media of late. The pundits on the Fox network have claimed that Bill&#8217;s unwillingness to appologize is an indication of his desire to throw more bombs. One, and I won&#8217;t even bother to state his name, claims that the Weatherunderground intended to kill innocent people by the droves. Really? Well my question is, why didn&#8217;t they if that was their intention? Timothy McVie and many other true terrorists have proven just how easy that is to do (Mr. McVie was a Right Wing terrorist by the way. That must be hard to swallow for some). It is however difficult to conduct PROPERTY damage as the Weathermen did without hurting any innocents. Let&#8217;s be realistic here, if they wanted to kill they could have easily done so. They chose not too. To me that indicates SYMBOLIC violence. What should they pay a price for? Vandalism? Certainly not true terrorism. Certainly people in my age group at the time were not terrorized by the Weathermen.</p>
<p>My point is lets don&#8217;t rewrite history. If you didn&#8217;t live during those times as I did, don&#8217;t believe everything the network news is spewing lately. I&#8217;m not saying that I agree with the actions of the Weathermen, but clearly they were not terrorists or murderers. You may not agree with their politics, but google the name Fred Hampton and then research the outcome in the courts years later when justice was sought. There were other motivations for the actions of the Weathermen other than just the war. Before you spout hate, please know what you are talking about. Because, believe it or not, our government isn&#8217;t always right, nor does it always conduct itself lawfully. And in either case, it is the responsiblity of the citizens to chasten it and lead it back to the tack of justice and freedom.</p>
<p>The hateful explicatives show lack of inteligence. That can be forgiven. Ignorance is another matter.</p>
<p>I await your hateful, uninformed, and intolerant (as in anti-democratic) responses.</p>
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		<title>By: James M. Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James M. Baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, I sent you an email to your university email address months ago, you never replied. I hate you and your wife. Please come to my house and bomb it. My real feelings for you can&#039;t be disclosed here, but rest assured I&#039;m 41 years old and I&#039;ve hated you long before Osama Obama ever put you and your cunt wife into the spotlight. If I ever met you in person, I would kill you without hesitation. Fortunately, you&#039;re both as hated and as useless as that rotten cock-sucker, Jimmy Carter. Fuck your soul straight to Hell, you mother fucker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I sent you an email to your university email address months ago, you never replied. I hate you and your wife. Please come to my house and bomb it. My real feelings for you can&#8217;t be disclosed here, but rest assured I&#8217;m 41 years old and I&#8217;ve hated you long before Osama Obama ever put you and your cunt wife into the spotlight. If I ever met you in person, I would kill you without hesitation. Fortunately, you&#8217;re both as hated and as useless as that rotten cock-sucker, Jimmy Carter. Fuck your soul straight to Hell, you mother fucker.</p>
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