Episodic Notoriety–Fact and Fantasy

Day in and day out I go about my business, I hang out with my kids and my grandchildren, take care of the elders, I go to work, I teach and I write, I organize and I participate in the never-ending effort to build a powerful movement for peace and social justice; now and then (and unpredictably) I appear in the newspapers or on TV with a reference to my book Fugitive Days, a memoir of the revolutionary action and militant resistance to the Viet Nam War—the years of miracle and wonder—and some fantastic assertions about what I did, what I said, and what I believe. The other night, for example, I heard Sean Hannity tell Senator John McCain that I was an unrepentant terrorist who had written an article on September 11, 2001 extolling bombings against the U.S., and even advocating more terrorist bombs. Senator McCain couldn’t believe it, and neither could I.

My e-mail and my voice-mail filled up with hate, as happens, mostly men with too much time on their hands I imagined, all of them venting and sweating and breathing heavily, a few threats—“Watch out!”; “You deserve to be shot”; and from satan@hell.com, “I’m coming to get you and when I do, I’ll waterboard you”—all of it wildly uninformed. I’ve written a lot about the Viet Nam period, about politics, about schools and social justice, and I read and speak about all of it. I encourage people to argue, to agree or disagree, to discuss and struggle, to engage in conversation. I believe deeply in the pedagogical possibilities of dialogue—of listening with the possibility of being changed, and of speaking with the possibility of being heard—and I believe in revitalizing the public square, resisting the eclipse of the public and expanding the public space, searching for a more robust and participatory democracy. Talking to one another can help.

So in that spirit here is another attempt at clarity:

1. Regrets. I’m often quoted saying that I have “no regrets.” This is not true. For anyone paying attention—and I try to stay wide-awake to the world around me all/ways—life brings misgivings, doubts, uncertainty, loss, regret. I’m sometimes asked if I regret anything I did to oppose the war in Viet Nam, and I say “no, I don’t regret anything I did to try to stop the slaughter of millions of human beings by my own government.” Sometimes I add, “I don’t think I did enough.” This is then elided: he has no regrets for setting bombs and thinks there should be more bombings.

The illegal, murderous, imperial war against Viet Nam was a catastrophe for the Vietnamese, a disaster for Americans, and a world tragedy. Many of us understood this, and many tried to stop the war. Those of us who tried recognize that our efforts were inadequate: the war dragged on for a decade, thousands were slaughtered every week, and we couldn’t stop it. In the end the U.S. military was defeated and the war ended, but we surely didn’t do enough.

2. Terror. Terrorism—according to both official U.S. policy and the U.N.—is the use or threat of random violence to intimidate, frighten, or coerce a population toward some political end. This means, of course, that terrorism is not the exclusive province of a cult, a religious sect, or a group of fanatics. It can be any of these, but it can also be—and often is—executed by governments and states. A bombing in a café in Israel is terrorism, and an Israeli assault on a neighborhood in Gaza is terrorism; the September 11 attacks were acts of terrorism, and the U.S. bombings in Viet Nam for a decade were acts of terrorism. Terrorism is never justifiable, even in a just cause—the Union fight in the 1860’s was just, for example, but Shernan’s March to the Sea was indefensible terror. I’ve never advocated terrorism, never participated in it, never defended it. The U.S. government, by contrast, does it routinely and defends the use of it in its own cause consistently.

3. Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good—must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary. We need to bring our imaginations together and forge an unbreakable human alliance. We need to unite to transform and save ourselves as we fight to change the world and save humanity.

74 Responses to “Episodic Notoriety–Fact and Fantasy”

  1. Dan Schneider Says:

    Too many people view the common good with closed eyes, only perceiving those that are like themselves. To people like Sean Hannity, the world is a great place because the people that he talks to and the people that he befriends are the people in power. If we want a world that condones racism and excepts institutionalized inequality, people can continue to listen and accept his words without a single thought.
    Furthermore, too many people view government to encompass the entirety of a society’s diversity and viewpoints. We see all Palestinians represented by Fatah, all Chinese by communism, and all American’s by George Bush. The reality could not be further from these representations. The Iraqi government established by the US represents only a minority of the people, who were willing to cooperate with Bush and his imperialism; and yet, we see it as encompassing all that Iraq has to offer. As human beings we are all connected in so many more ways than government can make us believe. We all live the human experience and that ties us together. All people need to move past the power structures and begin to see each other as equals, all struggling towards the same human goals.

  2. Joan Says:

    We have just got to figure out ways where we can fight without hatred, without bombs, without killing the human spirit. I do think competition is a basic thread that breads violence. How can the competitive nature be transformed into one that is cooperative, not cooperation as a means to an end but as a genuine interest in the betterment of the human condition? Life is not only a stage, its a game where winner takes all. I think we have to understand that winners create losers. Until we find this balance between the two…the pendulum will continue to swerve.

  3. roberrt trajan Says:

    Bill. I feel extremely sorry for you. You do have the blood of human beings on your hands if not on your conscience. I wonder if you ever regret allowing your political agedna to destroy so many lives. Yours included.

  4. John A. Duerk Says:

    Professor Ayers:

    I have often thought that humanity is clinging to the lowest possible rungs of its existence when the basis of our interaction has to be predicated on competing with one another in whatever context (business, sports, academia, etc.). Ironically, as children, we’re told to share what we have, but as we grow up and mature, we’re encouraged to think about all that we can accumulate for ourselves - as individuals. People talk about the importance of “community,” but from what I can tell, it only matters in times of great tragedy. After all, who has time for “community” as part of their everyday life when they’re so busy attending to their own personal affairs?

    Well, I just wanted to drop in on your blog because I’ve been following the controversy. In my opinion, the problem with people like Sean Hannity is that they lack the ability to think beyond their own constrained, simple framework of “God and country.” This is why he keeps showing your picture on his program and using the word “terrorist” to describe you multiple times over. Some of the more thoughtful people watching have to question his motivations - especially since his characterization of you is devoid of any depth. Undoubtedly, he’s thriving on an incomplete narrative. Anyways, it’s not like I’m telling you something you don’t already know. I just feel like it needs to be said publicly.

    Until all are free,

    John A. Duerk

  5. roberrt trajan Says:

    “Until we are all free,”

    “Life is not only a stage, its a game where winner takes all.”

    “All people need to move past the power structures…”

    The left’s perchant for sanctimonious platitudes reminds me of the old time gospel preachers calling on the wayward to repent. And just as the flock in those pews, the folks will continue to live their life as they see fit. Do I hear an Amen?

  6. Jill Gerard Says:

    Bill
    As a product of the 60’s, I cannot believe that after almost 50 years we are still making the same mistakes! I guess Kurt Vonnegut was right when he talked about the question of “Why was man born to suffer and die” that we never have been able to get a straight answer to.
    Peace, Hope, Education
    Jill

  7. roberrt trajan Says:

    The Left Rev. Obama makes a sanctimonious broadside about the little folks. The ones that he loves and intends to represent:

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” Obama said.

    Obama will bring us together.

    Amen! and Amen.

  8. roberrt trajan Says:

    Step right up. Get your Anti Bitter Exlir right here. This is a product you can believe in.
    Rev. Obama’s Exlir of Audacity is a red tinted tonic for what ills you. The Exlir, fermented during the Rev. Obama’s days in college while hanging out with fellow Marxist students and Marxists professors was further distilled and aged during a 20 year period of Rev. Obama’s time at the Trinity Church of the Black Everything. In addition, the loving hands of Michelle Obama have added a more intense flavor to this wonderful juice. After taking just two bottles of this magic, you little folks will drop your guns. You will forsake your religion and embrace your nearest immigrant. You will not longer be bitter. Your standard of living will immediately skyrocket. You will gladly take up your “Obama: Change we can believe” placard. You will march proudly as we enter the New Kingdom of Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers.

    Somebody shout Amen!

  9. roberrt trajan Says:

    I think that the Left Rev. Obama has really explains why Professor Ayers got so caught up in his youthful bitterness, violence, bombing and the religion of Marxism. It must be that Professor Bill’s Dad had the lad on a very meager allowance. Say about $200 a week during the good ole days of the SDS. That would definitely cause an uppity class boy some angst. So. I guess it is all the Senior Ayers’s fault that bill got so carried away with his bitterness.

  10. roberrt trajan Says:

    “somebody shout amen!”

    I will settle for a “Workers of the world unite!”

  11. Hoang Says:

    As a post-war Vietnamese, I really understand what you mean. I hope you keep fighting for a more just world. Thank you.

  12. Aubrey Says:

    It sounds to me that you are still trying justify your actions protesting the Viet Nam war and never express remorse for the bombings you participated in. I guess you are a hero in your on eyes but to me you are a terrorist.

  13. Isa X Says:

    America’s greatest fear is speaking extolling and being told the TRUTH and it doesn’t matter if it is in America’s interest…Abominable isn’t it?
    I pity America, it is so ashamed of its hands it will rather gloved it than wash it.

  14. flibbity flop Says:

    Roberrt,

    You must start taking your medicine again. You know, Roberrt, when you don’t take your pills, you start sounding all crazy. Why don’t you try debating the substance of Mr. Ayers words. Start with why you defend imperialism. Do you take issue with his definition of terrorism? Why do you take issue? Delve into your points. Offer a nuanced defense of imperialism, Roberrt. Your histrionics do us all a disservice, Roberrt.

  15. Iris Says:

    Fuck you and your liberal fool ilk. You are, were, and will continue to be irrelevant.

  16. Daudi Kengele Says:

    Amen and Halleluja!

  17. kendra Says:

    how the hell you ever got a job and became a “distinguished” professor of anything, after what you have done, sickens me…
    why would anyone want YOU to teach thier children?
    you are by no means an AMERICAN, or a role model, and if you dont like it here then get the hell out!!!
    but no, you wont do that, because if you left theis GREAT COUNTRY you wouldnt have the FREEDOMS you have here…
    you are nothing but a hypocrit who hides behind his cowardice and feasts off the fears of others…
    you are the worst kind of terrorist, and no better than HITLER…
    i can only pray that my children dont end up with a farce like you as a mentor or a teacher…

  18. David Says:

    Bill, I had a late night dinner with you several years ago in Detroit.
    You are right, random violence committed against civilians should be condemned, and a study of history will reveal that the the United States has committed the most egrigious acts of terrorism in the past fifty years. In fact, the history of the United States is in no small measure a history of terrorism, committed to further imperial ambitions, beginning with the taking of Native lands, the nineteenth century taking of Mexican lands, the conquest of Hawaii, etc…
    What is required presently is a bonding of humanity to rechart our priorities away from conquest and toward a forging of the common good, a spirit that involves the creative exercise of imagination to end exploitation and save the world and its inhabitants.

  19. gobill! Says:

    Your very birth is a great argument for abortion. Your sow mother should have been bacon
    before your pig father rutted in the shit with her.

  20. Zeke Says:

    I like how you define terrorism and then believe that it somehow does not apply to you. You are a terrorist. You are not fooling anyone.

  21. Big Ben Patton Says:

    Dialogue. If only people wanted to talk , listen or take the time to even be heard. Go back to sleep America… Its ok…

  22. Doug Says:

    Your organization conducted 30 bombings, including ones at NYC police HQs, the US Capitol, and the Pentaon. You later said of the day of the bombing of the Pentagon: “Everything was absolutely ideal. … The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.”

    In “Fugitive Days,” you reflected on whether or not you might use bombs against the U.S. some time in the future, and wrote: “I can’t imagine entirely dismissing the possibility.”

    Yet above you say you’ve never advocated terrorism. Is this what you mean by using the word “Fantasy” in the headline?

  23. Dave Says:

    Bill, I’ve watched and heard your name dragged through the mud for the sake of “politics” the past few weeks so I feel for ya. One thing that you might want to clear up is in regard to 9/11 did you actually write something at that time/subject? Is there something that they are actually referencing? It would likely stop some of the bs thats being discussed.

  24. 周老師 Says:

    Dr. Ayers:

    Your words ring true on a number of levels, but I have to wonder if we have any chance of “taking back the public square” from the corporate-state Leviathan which crouches over us in Washington. Unfortunately, if you look at the example of someone like Ralph Nader, a person who also believes deeply in dialogue and civic activism, it all but proves we can’t (even though we have to try).

    At best, we’re relegated to the quaint margins (to our blogs and our classrooms, where we can easily be dismissed) and never listened to in the slightest–except to be condemned, of course! So, instead of being able to make ourselves heard, all we hear is a drab monologue or, at best, a situation where we can sit on the sidelines and have the “privelige” of listening to the state and corporations debating about which sector (oil/energy, banking and finance, media and broadcast, contracting and development?) will win the biggest stake in the next elections. Isn’t that what last night’s debate was about, after all?

    Sincerely,

    Dr. Ron S. Judy,

  25. Mary CA Says:

    The song and video by Billy Joel: “We Didn’t Start The Fire” is playing in my mind. Growing up Christian, of course I believed in loving my neighbor as myself and Thou Shalt Not Kill. I can still see a young Vietnamese/American co-worker’s look~~although I forget her words~shortly after “9/11″ it summed up what people think of we, the citizens of the United States as seen through the eyes of the world.

    We are looked upon as “Christian terrorists” and “Imperialistic bullies” who got what we deserved that day. Even Thomas Jefferson said something like “I tremble for our country” because “God is just” and “justice can not sleep forever”.

    I have spoken to many immigrants that do tell me the USA is the best country in the world for democracy and standard of living. But at what cost for not finding viable solutions other than war to control oil; and in the beginning slaughter of natives to the land the founders claimed as their own.

    Perhaps I still have a spark of that youthful idealism in me, because I still think we are at a pivotal moment in history, where we may just be able to change the status quo in DC and create a better future for children globally.

  26. Ellen Says:

    Bill…….what a sorry bunch of high falutin’ b.s. you write. It astonishes me that ANY supposedly intelligent people fall for it!

  27. lorelia Says:

    I am sorry for all this hate coming at you. You do not deserve it. Your intentions were and still are very very very very noble. Keep on doing what you can for justice, peace and equality. As far as the comments above, My God what hate narrowness. You guys are the radicals.

  28. Phil Says:

    I think you are a traitor and a would-be terrorist.

    Sean Hannity has publicly offered you a full hour to debate him on the radio or television. Are you too much of a coward or too weak intellectually to accept that challenge?

  29. Sojourner Says:

    “Terrorism—according to both official U.S. policy and the U.N.—is the use or threat of random violence to intimidate, frighten, or coerce a population toward some political end.. I’ve never advocated terrorism, never participated in it, never defended it.”

    Liar. Liar, Pants on Fire! Who do think you’re fooling there Mr. Uber-Libtard? The Weathermen weren’t domestic terrorists?! Let me guess… they were just misunderstood. (And al Qaeda, they’re just freedom fighters?) The bombs you guys used were just itty-bitty ladylike bombs I suppose; set off out of what? Oh…I got it…I got it…for “love” and “the common good.”

    “…and an Israeli assault on a neighborhood in Gaza is terrorism…”

    After you wash your mouth out with soap go to the blackboard and write 500 times: ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF. Then go stand in the corner.

    When you’re done drinking from the Perpetually Disaffected American trough you should get a job as a stringer with the lieing scumbgs at Reuters. Better yet, go join Hamas. I hear they need more human shields.

  30. Nick Ravo Says:

    Good blog, Professor Ayres. Glad to see you talking back and, in particular, putting the Viet Nam War into its proper historical perspective.

  31. Leo Regan Says:

    Google today, your name, and “no regrets” detonates. In the black and white world, the good and evil world, the Christian world, you must repent, you must express regret for your sins, for your crimes, and you are only in the news now, because of your crimes. The rest is rationalization, self-justification, hubris, me-myself-I pride before the fall and down you go, bringing harm to him in whom so much hope has been bestowed. Of course, the Christians will never be satisfied enough to forgive you, because you fell, because you sinned, because you were proud, you were not humble, serving authority. And there we have it, non serviam, who said that? You were not on the side of the angels and can never be trusted, regardless of your best efforts at rehabilitation, because you don’t believe, and that is completely obvious.

  32. Boppa Says:

    So, Mr. Ayers, instead of continuing the dialogue of the deaf, go on Hannity’s radio and TV program and debate him.

  33. Robin Says:

    Thanks for this input. I was a young girl during Viet Nam, but I remember the news every night. It gave me nightmares. I remember girlfriends big brothers being afraid that they might have to go. I remember girlfriends whose brothers did not come back. By the end of the war I was a teenager ready to enter HS. I remember America’s shame at that war. I remember never being taught about the Viet Nam war in school. I remember the way the vets were treated. This was not our war.

    Today I have 2 sons who have served in Enduring Freedom. By the grace of God they have both come home to me. However, they both fight for their veteran benefits. One is fighting for his GI bill - he served 6 years. This is not our war. Our shame only hinted at will be great when we finally do “have” to leave. Our shame will be at the way we have left the innocent.

    Anyway, I don’t believe in bombing and I had a friend who died in the WTC. But I believe we were put here to love one another and not judge one another.

    Peace Mr. Ayers

  34. James Says:

    Nice to read your account of these events, and to see again that spark of idealism that illuminated parts of the 60’s and 70’s. I too have held onto my hope- I have a copy of the Port Huron Declaration in my attache case, which goes with me wherever I go.
    Few have ever heard of it.
    Few have escaped the profaning of history that has erased so much from that time.
    But I was there, and I remember.

  35. gary Says:

    bill,there is one problem you have have and that is your beliefs are in direct oppostionto the u.s. constitution,under whose princples the greatest country in the history of the world has come into being. your call for a socialist state has an obvious record of failure. now you leftists are using global warming to try to take over. if you succed millions more will be eliminated in the name of “the common good.” expect a fight traitor.

  36. bob dylan Says:

    I wish the worst for you and your family. I hope you all rot in hell.

  37. jean lipscomb Says:

    Robert,

    SHUT UP! We HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME. IT WAS STUPID THEN AS IT IS NOW.
    WHY DO YOU THINK! NO MAJOR ALLY JOINED US IN THE WAR IN IRAQ EXCEPT
    PRIME MINISTER BLAIR?

    BECAUSE WE WERE WRONG FOR GOING THERE? DO YOUR RESEARCH! LEARN YOUR HISTORY!
    GEEZ>>>>>

  38. Mary LaFountain Says:

    Thank you for clearing up the issues that the media has been trying to use to dominate this primary season. Sean Hannity and the ABC tabloid lynching party are a disgrace to the American public.

    I am also a product of the 60’s and remember Vietnam clearly: every night on the news the count of the number of American soldiers killed THAT DAY would be at the bottom of the TV screen. I remember sitting with my friends watching the draft lottery and praying that none of their draft numbers were selected. Then crying for the young men that were selected to be sent to Vietnam to be slaughtered and to slaughter in the name of FREEDOM and LIBERTY. In addition, I remember clearly my friends returning from Vietnem and how messed up they were from the acts they seen and were forced to be a part of. Some of them have never recovered: their innocent teenage years stolen from them like a pedofile steals all good from a child changing their life forever. I remember burying people I loved because they were the unlucky ones to have been selected and forced to go to Vietnam. I remember the RICH and ELITE being able to avoid being selected : only the poor had to pay the price. So when people express their negative opinion on the protest of Vietnam I say to them unless you lived in the time and walked in the shoes of a soldier or someone who loved that soldier you have no right to judge. Futhermore, to those whom I know will look at this post negatively calling me unpatriotic I say to them research the facts there was NOTHING patriotic and democratic about Vietnam.

  39. John K Says:

    “Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism”

    Huh? That statement would be laughable if it were not so pathetically and willfully ignorant. Compare pre-Mugabe versus post-Mugabe or North versus South Korea or Hong Kong versus China or pre-Thatcher versus post-Thatcher or US health care versus Britsh health care or a Mercedes versus a Trabant. At least in the 1960’s it was excusable to be a leftist because of what we didn’t know. We now know that 90 million people died under communist rule. Communism is what is exhausted.

    Under the Soviet system of justice you would have been executed for your crimes and there would be no getting off on a technicality.

  40. Dirty Hippy Says:

    You can’t hug your children with nuclear arms.

  41. Schell Says:

    What kind of fantasy world do you live in Mr. Ayers? Obviously academia, a world where you don’t have to compete for your daily bread. How many coporate donors provide funds for your institution? Sorry folks but competition has been the way of the world since the begining of time. All animals (including we humans) have been fighting each other for our livelyhoods forever. GET OVER IT! The fact is that we live in the kindest, most compasionate nation in the history of the world. If you really dislike it so much here then why don’t you move to France?

  42. Jack Janski Says:

    No matter how you try to spin it, Billy you’re still a fucking scumbag along with that wife of yours.

    BTW Billy, why didn’t you get upset when the VC were cutting off the heads of villagers who refused to join their cause? Or when the communists in the region began their program of mass murder when the American military left the region.

    Yeah, not a word from Billy and his ilk. That is because Billy is an enemy of America. Always was and apparently always will be. Disgraceful swine!!!

  43. Jack Janski Says:

    Hey John Durek - STFU you leftist moron!!

  44. dana white Says:

    I believe a certain amount of people would rather state the most ridiculuos far reaching statement about a topic or person than to really think topics thru. It’s a dumming down of ideas thru propaganda and insults instead of thoughtful discussion that makes people think outside the box. I sincerely believe this inabilty has hurt Amercica and keeps us from growing and dealing with current serious issues.

  45. Jack Janski Says:

    Question for all you Billy Ayers defenders. A couple of bank guards and a NY police officer were murderd by the Weathermen. Has Billy been compensating their survivors for the pain and suffering caused by his cohorts actions?? The dirtbag seems to be doing pretty well these days.

    Oh by the way, how about this little piece of trivia about Mr. Bill:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=9E8CD8A7-E90B-4311-8AA9-AEFD014A14B2

    Nice buy that Billy Ayers, eh people? Ayers doesn’t deserve a sympathic ear. He deserves a good ass-kicking and about 35 years in the federal pen.

  46. Doug Truax Says:

    Bill, I was delighted to come across your blog, thanks to the recent inanities stirred up by the ABC so-called political debate. I recall you well from my days at the U-M. I was arrested, as I believe you were, during a sit-in at the selective service office protesting the Viet Nam war. It is good to hear that you are still working for peace, racial justice, education, and a variety of other causes that were given life in the sixties. It is, indeed, regretful that we could not have done more to bring the war to a close sooner. And it is even more regretful that we have let a similar war erupt in our times, consuming lives, goodwill, and the American conscience in its wake. We may not agree on all policies and tactics, but I applaud your activism, your willingness to stay involved, awake, and intelligently engaged in a dialogue that matters.

    Best,

    Doug

  47. Melanie Says:

    Jack Janski: Sorry for your obvious pain. Please get some counseling. Your anger is eating you alive. Peace be with you.

  48. Dave Says:

    Bill, kudos for being honest — painfully so. I may not agree with all of your decisions but they are yours to make.

    The problem with the Jack Janski and Sean Hannitys of the world is they only want freedom for those who agree with them on everything. That is not what the country was founded upon but it isn’t stopping them anyway.

    Unlike some people, I have faith in our legal system. Bill, if you did something illegal, you should go to jail. (Ask Sara Jane Olson. It is never too late.) Since that has not happened, you should be entitled to your view and your peace.

    But the Janskis and Hannitys don’t believe in the legal system. They believe in their point of view — and only their point of view. That is scary to me. Joe McCarthy tried to instigate this idea 50 years ago. We needed Murrow to stop it. Who will stop these guys?

    Hang tough.

  49. james gyre Says:

    bill, if that article in frontpagemag is true, it’s fucked up. but i’m not holding my breath for truth from any magazine that publishes ann coulter. if you haven’t commented one way or another, i urge you to get on record.

    bill, it’s hard choices that you have made. i can see you thinking. even killing some (by accident or design) could be justified if it saved the lives of a thousand times more lives. one could say it is a violent act NOT to kill few to save many. so i’m sure you have regrets, but you also have courage.

    now anyone reading this… it IS a slippery slope to ever justify killing anyone for any cause. but spew your hubris out somewhere else… it’s too hard to judge one way or another. bill tried his best given the incredible loss of life on both sides. pacifism isn’t so cut and dry when you’re trying to stop wars.

  50. James Bechtold Says:

    R Trajan and J Janski–wow. For people who are upset about someone’s alleged violent past, you sure spout a lot of hatred and violence! Maybe you should open a Bible or something and read a little about forgiveness, how God loves a peacemaker, blessed are the meek, about how God hates war, hates the proud, etc. Read a little more before you get on here and spew hate.

  51. roberrt trajan Says:

    James. Please set me straight. I encourage you to provide my quoted examples of hatred and violennce.

  52. roberrt trajan Says:

    I guess that standards of free speech are very different in Berkeley, Ca. Maybe more in line with Stalinist standards.

  53. roberrt trajan Says:

    James. James?

    James. Come on James. Provide the site with the examples in which you claim that I “spout a lot hatred and violence”.

    You can’t do it. So. What does that make you James? I’ll give you a hint. it starts with a L.

  54. Proctologist Says:

    Be honest Bill, you’re not a mass murderer, by virtue of incompetence. Nothing like a bunch of spoiled rich kids who demonstrate their advocacy of the “working class” by trying to kill working class people — soldiers, firemen and policemen.

    You don’t need to be a proctologis to tell who the assholes are!

  55. allah karim Says:

    A lot of us who ardently opposed the Vietnam war, opposed U.S. involvement in central America, oppose U.S. support for Israel, and oppose the war in Iraq, still think you’re an evil son of a bitch. Maybe not a Hitler, or even a Pol Pot. No, you don’t quite those levels of evil. You rank about the same as Abimael Guzman, except perhaps not quite as honest. Like the proctologist said above, you’re another spoiled academic rich kid, who likes to get pompous and self-righteous, but really disdains working class Americans.

  56. roberrt trajan Says:

    Fibs Floppy: why should I defend imperialism? I guess that you defend Ayres’s definition of terrorism. Good for you. Fibs, Ayers’s words are fine with me. I have issues with his acts. That may be a bit difficult for a fibber to comprehend. So don’t even try. It will only confuse you

  57. roberrt trajan Says:

    Fibs floppy wants me to take my meds. This is so typical of the left. Should someone have the audacity to disagree with the party line, why, that comrade must be sick. Throw that deviant bouguise bastard into the Cancer Ward.

    Fibs is your real name Ramón Mercader ?

  58. Jack Janski Says:

    Wow!! Great analogy!! Will Ayers’ buds condemn Eric Rudolph but continue to embrace their own Leftist domestic terrorist??

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/heres-a-better-analogy-for-bill-ayers-than-tom-coburn-eric-rudolph/

    BTW guys, just because Ayers was not convicted of a crime doesn’t mean he is innocent. In fact, Billy boy admitted setting the bombs. What else do you need, people!!!?????

  59. Bob from Boston Says:

    Bill: Man, you got a LOT of hateful responses to this post. I don’t know how you manage to keep your cool with all these Right Wing nuts threatening you with bodily harm.

    I must admit I don’t know very much about your past with the Weather Underground, but you seem like a decent guy. I’m currently reading “Fugitive Days” to get an idea of what things were like back in the day.

    Keep fighting the good fight! God bless.

  60. David Carew Says:

    One of the great ironies of this is that the dominant global power, the America of the 60’s , that was violently opposed by the Weather Underground is collapsing from within without being attacked by armies from within or from outside. What has destroyed America is an unholy alliance between its Government and Corporate America to promote the latter’s interests at the expense of the welfare of vast majority of the American people. It is truly tragic to see loyal foot soldiers like Janski and trajan, the cheerleaders for the handful of beneficiaries of a corrupt government, do their masters’ bidding, and being in total denial. At least the rest of us who are not fooled by the fairy tales from the right, KNOW we’re being screwed by the Americas ruling elite. Janski, trajan and the rest of their ilk, have no idea.

  61. Leo Regan Says:

    The catchphrase of right during the period of civil unrest in the last 60’s was “love or leave it”. Rather than taking personal decisions to leave the United States, the Weather cult of maniacs succeeded in creating a faction of elite, self-indulgent maniacal deluded hysterics who were only successful in destroying themselves and providing a hammer to hit left wing politics with for forty years, which even now continues. Having left in 1972, and lived in Ireland where a substantial physical force movement battled the British to a standstill, and succeeded in changing the balance of power after the loss of 3000 lives, mostly non-combatants of course, the cult of the Weather underground cannot be considered in comparison with any of the murderous factions operating in Europe in the ’70’s under the guise of liberation. The use of rhetoric from a political tradition can provide the delusional basis for maniacal behavior of hysterical groups completely disconnected from any popular base or active tradition to which the group is accountable. These groups pose more danger to their own members than the larger society, as is now demonstrable with suicide cells.

  62. Robert Willett Says:

    Don’t Hillary Clinton and George Stephanopolous (as well as a host of right wing media goons like Sean Hannity) owe you a PUBLIC apology for calling you a terrorist and murderer on national television?

  63. N E Freeman Says:

    I have witnessed several serious criminal acts of terrorism by our government, its agents, and the police. I think that the central semiotic issue is that Hannity and ilk object to anyone outside the power sphere using tactics that are not ‘acceptable victim’ behavior.

    More flowers to the invaders.

  64. Jack Janski Says:

    Hey Robert,

    An apology for what?? For speaking the truth about Billy Boy?? For bringing to light the asshole’s violent past? Take your request for an apology and shove it where the sun don’t shine.

  65. james gyre Says:

    the vitriol some of the people are spraying at bill is very hypocritical.

    do any of you direct the same amount of hate and anger to our government, that has killed well over 1 MILLION PEOPLE in iraq in the last ten years?

    talk about innocent lives… think of the kids we’ve “liberated” from their limbs.

    all these people shouting about bill are, in my mind, MORE VIOLENT due to their complacency with the ongoing state-sponsored terrorism… don’t be fooled, people.

  66. james gyre Says:

    also, well done, bill, leaving these people’s comments up and not censoring. they become a strong message AGAINST themselves by their displays of hate, faulty logic and as i said above, hypocrisy.

  67. CharlieMansion Says:

    Let’s investigate a bit of hypocrisy - Bill has and continues to take an active stance against the “government”; yet, Bill is employed by the same government he detests. The UIC is a state university that receives funds from Illinois and the federal government. I don’t understand the hipocrisy. Whoops — maybe in the end, it is all about money - book revenue, the cush job of a tenured government employee, etc. Those Cuba jerseys don’t come cheap.

  68. Sean Says:

    Ayers is a coward he doesn’t have the balls to go on Hannity

  69. jack ludwig Says:

    Many (presumeably younger) writers here do not understand the vitriol directed Ayers way. Honestly, you had to be alive in the sixties to really understand it. I remember at the time thinking that eventually, eventually history would sort out who was right and who was wrong.
    Well, eventually history did prove that the crazy, illogical extreme ideas of the times were just that. The evidence became visible little by little - the tyranny in South Vietnam after 1975, Pol Pot, the fall of the Berlin wall, the collapse of communism, the contrast between East Germany and West Germany. North Korea and South Korea, Hong Kong and mainland China, present day Cuba.
    Bill Ayers knows (when he is alone with his thoughts) that his ideas then and now are crap, but to admit it publicly would destroy the house of cards he has constructed of his life. Pity him, he pays dearly every day.

  70. d brier Says:

    Would love to know the name of whomever is censoring comments to this site. Simply reinforces silly billy’s image as a well connected fraud, enabled by his pompous father Tom and indigent brother John. billy’s current crime is harboring his demented wife who he clearly knows should be either incarcerated or committed for our and her own good. billy’s current schtich, peddling his empty headed marxism to college students is as harmless as the ramblings of a wino to well adjusted, rational people. Unable to measure up to his wayward father, billy is a failed wanna be soldiering on like the one-song rock musician with the lousy ear and cacophonous meter. He’s just another excisable boil on academia’s ass but he does have his lunatic legacy to bolster him. To the censor: Why seek honest comments and then dishonestly portray them? Somebody there is as sick as billy and his psyhcopathic mate.

  71. d brier Says:

    Think this site’s censor is a stalinist who doesn’t allow honest reportee. billy and his university are now up on the national periscope for all to see. No longer is he, nor his screwball father, brother, and mentally distraught wife, a foregone and forgotten enigma. billy, despite his need for pseudo fame/anonymity, is about to become the most virulent , anti-American specimen our country will ever hold under its microscope. Billy’s intimate connects with Obama will become so well known during the general election that the supercilious billy will expose his federally funded university to the point where they ask his undistinguished ass to leave — or risk their federal funding. So will billy and his weird wife go underground again (meaning in his nutty father’s basement), or will he and his screwball wife join the national guard of venezuela? What a loss this will be. To the censor: Quit editing my remarks and please play fair here.

  72. d brier Says:

    You censor, don’t touch my words anymore. billy is a transparently harmless, confused little mind . Its his wife we all worry about. Why billy protects this lune is what indites him, not his fantasies about why he thinks he deserves what Tom arranged for him and how he thinks he beat the system like some cheap comic book hero. little billy is just wiley enough to know he’s about to get his wee cock caught in the proverbial ringer. God help this idiot’s innocent kids now being raised by his sicko wife and their afflicted circle. What losers these humans be. What a waste of life. Censor, heed: don’t change my words again. Its a free country, just ask your moronic billy, when he’s sobor again. Its not a secret honey.

  73. Michael Hureaux Says:

    You pricks accusing Ayers of being Pol Pot and shit have no sense of proportion, and certainly no sense of history. What the hell is wrong with some of you geniuses?

  74. Byron Jack Says:

    America kills thousands of innocent Iraqiis and calls it installing Democracy.

    When you never question the actions of the state you are complicit.

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